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How did you do on your September goals? #Goals

Bess Carnan
 

It's the last Monday of the month. Did you achieve everything you wanted to this month?

The last Monday is also a good time to start thinking about your October goals, since I'll be asking for those next week!

I finished Draft 0 of my manuscript, so September was *hugely* successful! It's short, messy, and not-great writing, but it's a perfect place to build up from. :)

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Re: Happy Friday! How was your week? #NPV

Dharma Kelleher
 

The rough draft of my WIP is coming slowly. Switching gears from polishing up a previous book to beginning the rough draft of the new one is always tough for me. My inner editor keeps wanting to jump in and kibbitz. 

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 27, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:

What did everyone achieve this week? 

I'm this close to finishing this draft of my mss and I'm hoping to complete it by tonight. That would be a HUGE NPV for me. :D

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Happy Friday! How was your week? #NPV

Bess Carnan
 

What did everyone achieve this week? 

I'm this close to finishing this draft of my mss and I'm hoping to complete it by tonight. That would be a HUGE NPV for me. :D

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Dharma Kelleher
 

Thanks! 😎

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 26, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:

The podcast sounds awesome, Dharma!

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Bess Carnan
 

The podcast sounds awesome, Dharma!

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Catherine Maiorisi
 

I feel your pain, Gale. I’m about half into my third and trying to figure out what parts I need to land the plane.

 Catherine

On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Gale <gale.massey6057@...> wrote:

I’m three quarters into the first draft of my second novel but having a wicked time figuring out the ending. Like landing an airplane made of mis-matched parts. Light a candle for me.  

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 11:27 AM Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:
What are your current projects? Articles? Essays? Short stories? Novels?

I'm this close to being done with draft 0 of my Orlando cat rescue manuscript! Now I have to add all the nuance and good quality writing bits.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


--
Gale Massey

Florida Book Award 2018
Clara Johnson Award Finalist 2019



The Blood Runs Cold 
A Matter of Blood - Lambda Literary Award Finalist
Readers rave: Complex characters, well-written, intelligent, page turner, clever plotting, multi-layered, intense, instantly hooks you, couldn’t put down

 http://www.catherinemaiorisi.com







Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Gale
 

I’m three quarters into the first draft of my second novel but having a wicked time figuring out the ending. Like landing an airplane made of mis-matched parts. Light a candle for me.  

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 11:27 AM Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:
What are your current projects? Articles? Essays? Short stories? Novels?

I'm this close to being done with draft 0 of my Orlando cat rescue manuscript! Now I have to add all the nuance and good quality writing bits.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

--
Gale Massey

Florida Book Award 2018
Clara Johnson Award Finalist 2019

GaleMasseyBooks.com

Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Anne
 

I’ve finally settled on a story and have started my eighth novel. I’m only 5,000 words in, but it feels wonderful to be writing again. 
--

Anne Laughlin | Broker

@properties 
 3101 N. Greenview
Chicago, IL 60657
773.255.0651
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Stop looking, start finding®
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--
Anne Laughlin
author of
Sometimes Quickly
Veritas
Runaway
The Acquittal 
A Date to Die

Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Jeffrey Marks
 

I’m working on a proposal and an article this month.

Jeff

Re: What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Dharma Kelleher
 

I am a couple thousand words into my next Shea Stevens outlaw biker novel. 

I just got the final edits for my third Jinx Ballou Bounty Hunter novel. 

And I just launched a new podcast, THE GRITTY GRITTY, which highlights #OwnVoices in crime fiction. I interviewed Tori Eldridge for the first episode and will be interviewing Michael Nava. 

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:27 AM, Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:

What are your current projects? Articles? Essays? Short stories? Novels?

I'm this close to being done with draft 0 of my Orlando cat rescue manuscript! Now I have to add all the nuance and good quality writing bits.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Bess Carnan
 

What are your current projects? Articles? Essays? Short stories? Novels?

I'm this close to being done with draft 0 of my Orlando cat rescue manuscript! Now I have to add all the nuance and good quality writing bits.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Dharma Kelleher
 

Thanks for everyone’s input. :-)

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Loretta <lorettamuses@...> wrote:

HI Dharma - in addition to the comments already made here, which relate to people who've already invested in the book and might be turned off by the discrepency - you might want to think about people who will pass on the book and never open it because the cover doesn't match what they're looking for. If I'm a butch short-haired lesbian looking for a book I can see myself in...I'll likely move on by if i'm scanning through kobo or kindle web pages (the cover image isn't a HUGE element in my book selecting...but it is part of it, and the fact that the image is small makes it even more important, to a certain extent.) 

Just my two cents, never having attempted to put a cover to a book! (and to be honest, for own novel, I'd prefer a landscape picture to a character picture - it's a very "place-specific" book, set in the Canadian sub-arctic.) 

Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Loretta
 

HI Dharma - in addition to the comments already made here, which relate to people who've already invested in the book and might be turned off by the discrepency - you might want to think about people who will pass on the book and never open it because the cover doesn't match what they're looking for. If I'm a butch short-haired lesbian looking for a book I can see myself in...I'll likely move on by if i'm scanning through kobo or kindle web pages (the cover image isn't a HUGE element in my book selecting...but it is part of it, and the fact that the image is small makes it even more important, to a certain extent.) 

Just my two cents, never having attempted to put a cover to a book! (and to be honest, for own novel, I'd prefer a landscape picture to a character picture - it's a very "place-specific" book, set in the Canadian sub-arctic.) 

Re: Question regarding covers and characters

 

My designer and those from my previous publisher didn't like to have a character face or recognizable characteristic on covers because of this type of issue for a reader. My mystery series uses a silhouette of a man (could be Derek or could be the killer) as a unifying theme for the covers. I guess the convention of showing a character with a photograph depends on the genre.

If you feel you will be explaining the cover at every book signing or speaking engagement, I would suggest asking for it to be changed. The cover should not be a distraction to the story.

--
Greg Lilly
 
Author of:

- Stray 

- The Wolf Crystal 

- Sunset & Semicolons – a Frank & Revealing Field Guide to the Writing Life

- Scalping the Red Rocks – A Derek Mason Mystery

- Under a Copper Moon
Devil's Bridge
- Fingering the Family Jewels– A Derek Mason Mystery

 

www.GregLilly.com

 
 

Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Tammy Bird
 

I'm with Tim on this one, except I have a hard time not dwelling on the differences once I find them. I will probably still finish the book, but I may not buy another by the same author. 

Can you find a picture in stock art by searching for lesbian protagonist or female mechanic (or something else that may lend itself to a person more like what you describe)?

Tammy

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 3:49 PM Tim Jungr via Groups.Io <timjungr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It irks me if the cover art doesn't match the description. In fact, that just happened to me this afternoon in the book I am currently reading. The first physical description of the hero mentioned his "sandy brown hair," but the guy on the cover had very dark hair. To be fair, I was only annoyed for about four seconds, then I got over it.

Mismatches are pretty common. I remember lots of traditional romances where the hero was described as having hair on his chest, but absolutely no cover models back then had hair.

Also, I am more likely to notice with an actual, paper book than with an e-book. Once I open an e-book I never look at the cover again, whereas I see the cover of a print book every time I pick it up. (And my kindle is black-and-white, so color differences wouldn't be as obvious.)

Tim

On Friday, September 13, 2019, 03:38:22 PM EDT, Dharma Kelleher <dharma.kelleher@...> wrote:


Hi everyone,

I need your thoughts. 

I have a cover designer working on a redesign for one of my books. My designer has come up with a beautiful cover, but the woman in the photo has longer hair than the main character. In the story, she is a butch lesbian motorcycle builder who has short spiky hair. Needless to say, representation of butch women in stock photo galleries is rather lacking. 

I really like the cover my designer has create, even with the longer hair. Do you think readers will have a problem with the fact that the woman on the cover doesn’t match the description in the book? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher
Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick

https://dharmakelleher.com


Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Tim Jungr
 

It irks me if the cover art doesn't match the description. In fact, that just happened to me this afternoon in the book I am currently reading. The first physical description of the hero mentioned his "sandy brown hair," but the guy on the cover had very dark hair. To be fair, I was only annoyed for about four seconds, then I got over it.

Mismatches are pretty common. I remember lots of traditional romances where the hero was described as having hair on his chest, but absolutely no cover models back then had hair.

Also, I am more likely to notice with an actual, paper book than with an e-book. Once I open an e-book I never look at the cover again, whereas I see the cover of a print book every time I pick it up. (And my kindle is black-and-white, so color differences wouldn't be as obvious.)

Tim

On Friday, September 13, 2019, 03:38:22 PM EDT, Dharma Kelleher <dharma.kelleher@...> wrote:


Hi everyone,

I need your thoughts. 

I have a cover designer working on a redesign for one of my books. My designer has come up with a beautiful cover, but the woman in the photo has longer hair than the main character. In the story, she is a butch lesbian motorcycle builder who has short spiky hair. Needless to say, representation of butch women in stock photo galleries is rather lacking. 

I really like the cover my designer has create, even with the longer hair. Do you think readers will have a problem with the fact that the woman on the cover doesn’t match the description in the book? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher
Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick

https://dharmakelleher.com


Question regarding covers and characters

Dharma Kelleher
 

Hi everyone,

I need your thoughts. 

I have a cover designer working on a redesign for one of my books. My designer has come up with a beautiful cover, but the woman in the photo has longer hair than the main character. In the story, she is a butch lesbian motorcycle builder who has short spiky hair. Needless to say, representation of butch women in stock photo galleries is rather lacking. 

I really like the cover my designer has create, even with the longer hair. Do you think readers will have a problem with the fact that the woman on the cover doesn’t match the description in the book? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher
Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick

https://dharmakelleher.com


Non-Publishing Victory Day! #NPV

Bess Carnan
 

How did everyone do this week? Did you do something cool with your writing? I want to hear about it!

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Re: Non-Publishing Victories Day #NPV

Dharma Kelleher
 

Way to crush it, Bess!

I’ve made progress on the outline for my next novel. About 60% done. 

And today I migrated my website from the old host to WP Engine. It loads so much faster now. Pop!

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:

How is everyone's week going?

i'm feeling pretty good about myself because I've written 1,200 words a day this week, because I was a thousand short last week. I didn't really think I could keep up this kind of momentum for as long as I have; in the past I've been a much spottier writer.
But this week, I'm crushing it.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com

Non-Publishing Victories Day #NPV

Bess Carnan
 

How is everyone's week going?

i'm feeling pretty good about myself because I've written 1,200 words a day this week, because I was a thousand short last week. I didn't really think I could keep up this kind of momentum for as long as I have; in the past I've been a much spottier writer.
But this week, I'm crushing it.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com