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What are you working on? #WIPWeds

Bess Carnan
 

What are your current projects? Articles? Essays? Short stories? Novels?

I'm this close to being done with draft 0 of my Orlando cat rescue manuscript! Now I have to add all the nuance and good quality writing bits.

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Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Dharma Kelleher
 

Thanks for everyone’s input. :-)

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Loretta <lorettamuses@...> wrote:

HI Dharma - in addition to the comments already made here, which relate to people who've already invested in the book and might be turned off by the discrepency - you might want to think about people who will pass on the book and never open it because the cover doesn't match what they're looking for. If I'm a butch short-haired lesbian looking for a book I can see myself in...I'll likely move on by if i'm scanning through kobo or kindle web pages (the cover image isn't a HUGE element in my book selecting...but it is part of it, and the fact that the image is small makes it even more important, to a certain extent.) 

Just my two cents, never having attempted to put a cover to a book! (and to be honest, for own novel, I'd prefer a landscape picture to a character picture - it's a very "place-specific" book, set in the Canadian sub-arctic.) 


Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Loretta
 

HI Dharma - in addition to the comments already made here, which relate to people who've already invested in the book and might be turned off by the discrepency - you might want to think about people who will pass on the book and never open it because the cover doesn't match what they're looking for. If I'm a butch short-haired lesbian looking for a book I can see myself in...I'll likely move on by if i'm scanning through kobo or kindle web pages (the cover image isn't a HUGE element in my book selecting...but it is part of it, and the fact that the image is small makes it even more important, to a certain extent.) 

Just my two cents, never having attempted to put a cover to a book! (and to be honest, for own novel, I'd prefer a landscape picture to a character picture - it's a very "place-specific" book, set in the Canadian sub-arctic.) 


Re: Question regarding covers and characters

 

My designer and those from my previous publisher didn't like to have a character face or recognizable characteristic on covers because of this type of issue for a reader. My mystery series uses a silhouette of a man (could be Derek or could be the killer) as a unifying theme for the covers. I guess the convention of showing a character with a photograph depends on the genre.

If you feel you will be explaining the cover at every book signing or speaking engagement, I would suggest asking for it to be changed. The cover should not be a distraction to the story.

--
Greg Lilly
 
Author of:

- Stray 

- The Wolf Crystal 

- Sunset & Semicolons – a Frank & Revealing Field Guide to the Writing Life

- Scalping the Red Rocks – A Derek Mason Mystery

- Under a Copper Moon
Devil's Bridge
- Fingering the Family Jewels– A Derek Mason Mystery

 

www.GregLilly.com

 
 


Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Tammy Bird
 

I'm with Tim on this one, except I have a hard time not dwelling on the differences once I find them. I will probably still finish the book, but I may not buy another by the same author. 

Can you find a picture in stock art by searching for lesbian protagonist or female mechanic (or something else that may lend itself to a person more like what you describe)?

Tammy

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 3:49 PM Tim Jungr via Groups.Io <timjungr=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It irks me if the cover art doesn't match the description. In fact, that just happened to me this afternoon in the book I am currently reading. The first physical description of the hero mentioned his "sandy brown hair," but the guy on the cover had very dark hair. To be fair, I was only annoyed for about four seconds, then I got over it.

Mismatches are pretty common. I remember lots of traditional romances where the hero was described as having hair on his chest, but absolutely no cover models back then had hair.

Also, I am more likely to notice with an actual, paper book than with an e-book. Once I open an e-book I never look at the cover again, whereas I see the cover of a print book every time I pick it up. (And my kindle is black-and-white, so color differences wouldn't be as obvious.)

Tim

On Friday, September 13, 2019, 03:38:22 PM EDT, Dharma Kelleher <dharma.kelleher@...> wrote:


Hi everyone,

I need your thoughts. 

I have a cover designer working on a redesign for one of my books. My designer has come up with a beautiful cover, but the woman in the photo has longer hair than the main character. In the story, she is a butch lesbian motorcycle builder who has short spiky hair. Needless to say, representation of butch women in stock photo galleries is rather lacking. 

I really like the cover my designer has create, even with the longer hair. Do you think readers will have a problem with the fact that the woman on the cover doesn’t match the description in the book? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher
Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick

https://dharmakelleher.com



Re: Question regarding covers and characters

Tim Jungr
 

It irks me if the cover art doesn't match the description. In fact, that just happened to me this afternoon in the book I am currently reading. The first physical description of the hero mentioned his "sandy brown hair," but the guy on the cover had very dark hair. To be fair, I was only annoyed for about four seconds, then I got over it.

Mismatches are pretty common. I remember lots of traditional romances where the hero was described as having hair on his chest, but absolutely no cover models back then had hair.

Also, I am more likely to notice with an actual, paper book than with an e-book. Once I open an e-book I never look at the cover again, whereas I see the cover of a print book every time I pick it up. (And my kindle is black-and-white, so color differences wouldn't be as obvious.)

Tim

On Friday, September 13, 2019, 03:38:22 PM EDT, Dharma Kelleher <dharma.kelleher@...> wrote:


Hi everyone,

I need your thoughts. 

I have a cover designer working on a redesign for one of my books. My designer has come up with a beautiful cover, but the woman in the photo has longer hair than the main character. In the story, she is a butch lesbian motorcycle builder who has short spiky hair. Needless to say, representation of butch women in stock photo galleries is rather lacking. 

I really like the cover my designer has create, even with the longer hair. Do you think readers will have a problem with the fact that the woman on the cover doesn’t match the description in the book? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher
Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick

https://dharmakelleher.com



Question regarding covers and characters

Dharma Kelleher
 

Hi everyone,

I need your thoughts. 

I have a cover designer working on a redesign for one of my books. My designer has come up with a beautiful cover, but the woman in the photo has longer hair than the main character. In the story, she is a butch lesbian motorcycle builder who has short spiky hair. Needless to say, representation of butch women in stock photo galleries is rather lacking. 

I really like the cover my designer has create, even with the longer hair. Do you think readers will have a problem with the fact that the woman on the cover doesn’t match the description in the book? 

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher
Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick

https://dharmakelleher.com



Non-Publishing Victory Day! #NPV

Bess Carnan
 

How did everyone do this week? Did you do something cool with your writing? I want to hear about it!

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: Non-Publishing Victories Day #NPV

Dharma Kelleher
 

Way to crush it, Bess!

I’ve made progress on the outline for my next novel. About 60% done. 

And today I migrated my website from the old host to WP Engine. It loads so much faster now. Pop!

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 6, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:

How is everyone's week going?

i'm feeling pretty good about myself because I've written 1,200 words a day this week, because I was a thousand short last week. I didn't really think I could keep up this kind of momentum for as long as I have; in the past I've been a much spottier writer.
But this week, I'm crushing it.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Non-Publishing Victories Day #NPV

Bess Carnan
 

How is everyone's week going?

i'm feeling pretty good about myself because I've written 1,200 words a day this week, because I was a thousand short last week. I didn't really think I could keep up this kind of momentum for as long as I have; in the past I've been a much spottier writer.
But this week, I'm crushing it.

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: What's your Work In Progress? #WIPWeds

Brenda Buchanan
 

I recently finished the first draft of what I hope will be the first in a new series about Maine lesbian criminal defense lawyer Neva Pierce.  The working title is MISGUIDED. 

I'm deep in the revision weeds, and happily so.  If anyone has interest in swapping beta reads, I hope this will be ready sometime this fall.

Thanks!


Re: What's your Work In Progress? #WIPWeds

Bess Carnan
 

Kick asterisk, everyone!

I'm sorry the work-cation didn't work out, Kristen. Guess it's time for a do-over!

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Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: What's your Work In Progress? #WIPWeds

Stefani Deoul
 

Congrats Kristen! Keep going Bess and Cheryl!

I just turned in my 3rd Sid Rubin book, and have begun a one-hour pilot script for an idea I have.  That should either float or sink by the time my edits come back :)

Cheers All,
Stef.

Stefani Deoul
Author, Sid Rubin Silicon Alley Adventures


PS - Sorry about the Hilton Head thing.


Re: What's your Work In Progress? #WIPWeds

Kristen Lepionka <kristenlepionka+q@...>
 

I turned in my 4th Roxane Weary book to my editor yesterday and now I don't have a WIP--strange feeling. I was working on a vacation in Hilton Head but the resort was under a mandatory evacuation on Monday at 12pm, so that didn't work out so well...


Re: What's your Work In Progress? #WIPWeds

cheryl head
 

Working on a stand-alone mystery. 53K in and writing furiously.
Happy Wednesday!
ch

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 12:33 PM Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:
The hurricane curled far enough away from us that it's just another grey, rainy day here in Orlando. The perfect time to hear everyone's stories!
What are you working on? 

I'm about 14,000 words into my cat rescuer manuscript and haven't entirely lost interest yet, so it's so far, so good!

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com



--
Cheryl Head
Author, Charlie Mack Motown Mysteries
Director of Inclusion, Golden Crown Literary Society


What's your Work In Progress? #WIPWeds

Bess Carnan
 

The hurricane curled far enough away from us that it's just another grey, rainy day here in Orlando. The perfect time to hear everyone's stories!
What are you working on? 

I'm about 14,000 words into my cat rescuer manuscript and haven't entirely lost interest yet, so it's so far, so good!

--

Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: First Monday of the Month! Time for Goals! #Goals

Bess Carnan
 

That's pretty exciting! 

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Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: First Monday of the Month! Time for Goals! #Goals

Dharma Kelleher
 

I’m starting to dip my toe into recording my audiobooks. I have the equipment set up in a walk-in closet with comforters hung all around. I posted a pic on my FB page. 

I hope to record some short stories as I improve my reading skills. Putting the voice in #OwnVoices. 

I also hope to finish the outline for my next lesbian outlaw biker novel. 

Peace out,
Dharma Kelleher

Gritty Crime Fiction with a Feminist Kick


On Sep 2, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Bess Carnan <BCarnan@...> wrote:

September has arrived. What are you hoping to get done this month with your writing?

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Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


First Monday of the Month! Time for Goals! #Goals

Bess Carnan
 

September has arrived. What are you hoping to get done this month with your writing?

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Bess
writer of unconventional mysteries
www.BessCarnanBooks.com


Re: What did you achieve this week? #NPV

Neil Plakcy
 

I finally finished reviewing all the Mahu books, got them formatted, and all but one uploaded to the sales sites. Whew! That was a lot of work, and not very emotionally rewarding, though I did get emotional a few times reading particular scenes.

I am really dying to get back to creative work, but I have two more non-series romances I got back from MLR and I'm reading through one of them now. I already have a killer new cover for it so I'm dying to get it out to people, especially because it's funny in a way I forgot that I know how to write.

This book, GayLife.com, was my first gay romance, written back in 1999 when I was under-worked at a company that put me in a little office on a warehouse floor. I had nothing to do with the warehouse workers and my boss hardly ever came by. I'd finish whatever I had to do, then turn to this book. The company had disabled the floppy disk drives, so I used to save to the hard drive, then email the work to myself at home, then delete. And to think I wrote a whole book like that!

Neil Plakcy

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 10:49 AM Leslie Karst <ljkarst@...> wrote:
I finished the first draft of my WIP, number five in my Sally Solari mysteries! Yippee!

Leslie Karst
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Author of the Sally Solari Mystery Series (Crooked Lane Books)
      MURDER FROM SCRATCH   
      DEATH AL FRESCO
      A MEASURE OF MURDER
      DYING FOR A TASTE